Remove weight system from Titans game

4 Comments·Started 20 January 2016 10:04 PM
Nathaniel BoltNathaniel Bolt Forum ExpertNathaniel BoltComments: 37 ✭✭✭✭
Limiting the weight on individual units and a further limitation on maximum group weight requiring you to upgrade an otherwise pointless structure with no practical use is just an unnecessary and negative feature with the game.

So remove the weight system entirely. Units would still have limits on equipment slots, so higher tier units would be better by having more slots.

For example, The Dictator has +2weapon slots and +1 component slot over the Anaconda. the Salamander has +1 armor slot, and +1 component slot over the Scorpion.

This means lower tier units could still be useful, but reasonably they would be worse than the higher tier units just do to the differences in available slots from equipment.
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  • XellosXellos Moderator XellosComments: 41
    Weight limit is a very good thing in my opinion. You need to plan and choose if you want stronger armor or more powerful weapons on your robots - you can't have both. Each base will require different strategy and squad composition to break in. Without the limit players would just pack heaviest weapons and armor on the best robots and that would be boring. Titan robot would be used over and over because of it's biggest max. weight. In the future new robots may be introduced and then limit could be increased, but it should stay in the game.
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  • Nathaniel BoltNathaniel Bolt Forum Expert Nathaniel BoltComments: 37 ✭✭✭✭
    Weight limits actually discourage any experimentation on units as you have a hard cap on what you can do. You can unlock the most powerful equipment, and its useless because you dont have a tier 10 Titan to use it. Why wouldnt the Titan be the only mech used at that point when its obviously the best? The Osiris by comparison cant even fully equip itself because of its limited weight. Just check the weight and the Titan can mount the heaviest equipment, while the Osiris cant mount Dynamic Armor tier 5 or Tier 5 Photon shields. This makes the Titan stronger AND tougher.

    This game has limited builds to be actually effective. Loading down +50% range mechs with machinguns isnt going to work for example. You just need a build that works. Machineguns are only useful in attacking someone that has all lightning Cannons and hades rockets. Most people just use rockets because they arent as heavy are cannons but do more damage.
    But thats not the point of this topic. the point is that as a Player you have to:
    1 Have resources to build and upgrade everything.
    (Resource structures provide only minor resources so attacking convoys is necessary especially when enemies become too strong to attack)

    2 Upgrade buildings to research and build mechs.
    (You cant just build mechs even with the right resources, you have to unlock them, and to unlock them you have to upgrade useless structures)
    3 Upgrade buildings to research and use weapons, armor, shields, and components.

    4 Upgrade Misson Control to raise the maximum weight of an attack group.

    Its just unnecessary to have so many limitations on players to discourage them from actually playing.
    So making the game too complicated has what benefit to players?

    The whole building aspect of this game is just an enormous limiter on combat. Combat could be scaled down to "you fight, you win, you get resources, you get better equipment to fight stronger enemies". Buildings do nothing by increase the time it takes you to get to better things. It will take me about 3 weeks to go from Anacondas to Dictators in my case..
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  • Meestah RieMeestah Rie Forum Dweller Meestah RieComments: 5 ✭✭
    ive found with the weight limitations, you'll have 1 bot with the best weapons, shields etc.. that youve researched so far. the rest will have 2nd & 3rd rate equipment. or you can have 3 bots with the your 2nd rate researched stuff you have. or you can have 6 bots with all 3rd rate equipment for your raids. another thing is... why does the weight of any weapon go up so much just to get it to the next level & the damage it does only goes up a teeny bit? the same thing happens for turret weapons & their armor etc..
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  • Walter RobertoWalter Roberto Forum Speaker Walter RobertoComments: 21 ✭✭✭
    Good point by Meestah. The weight difference between lvl 4 and 5 is huge, and as for weapons at least, no significant increase in damage. Why should we bother to upgrade stuff to lvl 5 if we can't use it anyway? Ok, maybe you can equip lvl 5 gear on a Titan, but then you have to side it with 5 tiny bots cause that Titan weights 1000 tons! Let Mission Control upgrade to lvl 20 or something.
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